In this episode of The Mental Fitness Podcast, hosts Dave and Luke sit down with psychologist Dr. David Morgan, who brings over two decades of experience in forensic and workplace mental health. Together, they unpack one of today’s most misunderstood topics, burnout, and reveal how it differs from depression, what early warning signs to look for, and why most people wait too long to act. From startup culture to corporate HR, Dr. Morgan explains how the myth of constant hustle can quietly erode emotional energy and productivity, and what leaders can do to change the narrative.
Listeners will come away with practical insights for recognizing emotional fatigue before it turns into something more serious. Dr. Morgan shares simple, research-backed ways to create mental “active recovery,” foster resilience, and shift from distraction to genuine restoration. Whether you’re a high-achieving founder, a working parent, or someone just trying to find balance, this conversation offers a new framework for mental endurance that goes beyond quick fixes or time off.
Chapters[Start] The Hidden Cost of Emotional Energy: Dr. Morgan introduces the concept of emotional energy as a limited resource, and why ignoring it leads to burnout.
07:50 Burnout vs. Depression: Dave shares his own experience mistaking burnout for depression, and Dr. Morgan explains how professionals can tell the difference.
15:30 Redefining Resilience: The conversation reframes resilience not as endurance, but as learning to thrive through adversity, with lessons from COVID and beyond.
29:00 Active Recovery & Mental Rest: The hosts and Dr. Morgan discuss what true mental recovery looks like, why “doomscrolling” doesn’t count, and how intentional rest rewires the brain.
39:00 Escaping the Burnout Cycle: When rest isn’t enough, how to recover from burnout, reframe your workload, and rebuild sustainable mental strength.
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